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Daniel talks with Utah Republican Governor Michael Levitt and Deleware's Democratic Governor Thomas Carper about the Federal Budget winding thru Congress. States are being handed responsibilities for programs that for several decades have been run by the Federal Government. The two governor offer their opinions as to whether their states are ready for the added responsibility.

ALEX TALKS WITH WRITER JON MARGOLIS ABOUT HIS VISIT TO NORTH DAKOTA, A STATE THAT IS RAPIDLY DE-POPULATING AND WHICH MANY PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE AUTHOR, THINK SHOULD PERHAPS DISAPPEAR. ALEX ALSO SPEAKS WITH THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH DAKOTA, WHO DISAGREES WITH THESE SENTIMENTS.

NPR LEGAL CORRESPONDENT NINA TOTENBERG REPORTS ON THE SUPREME COURT'S CONSIDERATION OF COLORADO AMENDMENT TWO, FORBIDDING SPECIAL PROTECTION FOR GAYS, AND HOW THE ISSUE PUTS THAT STATE'S GOVERNOR IN A FUNNY POSITION.

STAMBERG/RENT A FORT: HOST SUSAN STAMBERG TALKS WITH GARY JOHNSON, GOVERNOR OF NEW MEXICO, ABOUT WHY HIS STATE WANTS TO RENT OUT FORT STANTON, A THIRTEEN-HUNDRED ACRE GARRISON BUILT IN 1855.

PATRICK COX OF MEMBER STATION WBUR IN BOSTON REPORTS THAT OFFICIALS AT THE CEDAR JUNCTION PRISON IN WALPOLE, MASSASHUSETTS, ARE PREPARING TO LIFT A LOCKDOWN THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR THE PAST FOUR MONTHS. PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED THAT LIFTING THE LOCKDOWN MAY LEAD TO VIOLENCE, AND THEY ARE QUESTIONING WHETHER THE GET-TOUGH POLICY IN THAT STATE'S PRISONS WAS SUCH A GOOD IDEA.

New York State Governor George Pataki pah-TOCK-ee) has proposed to effectively reduce funding for the City University f New York by 25 percent. These cuts would wipe out the English language nstruction provided to immigrants who attend the public university. David Sears eports that the elimination of these language programs could potentially lock mmigrants out of the the city's education system.

Daniel speaks with students here in Washington, and with former New Jersey governor Tom Kean (kane) about rising tuition costs at America's universities. Kean, who's now president of Drew University says that state and federal budget cutbacks have pushed up tuition and forced students to take on more and more debt in the form of student loans.

DEAN KAHLER (KAY-ler), wounded in the Kent State University shootings. 25 years ago today the Ohio National Guard fired into a crowd of students at Kent State University demonstrating over raids into Cambodia. Four students were killed and nine were injured in the shooting. The National Guard and Governor of Ohio (who ordered the Guard's presence) were exonerated of any responsibility for the shooting. KAHLER was the only survivor to be paralyzed. He is currently a substitute teacher still living in Ohio.

Novelist SCOTT SPENCER. His new book, Men In Black (Knopf), was called "charmingly funny-sad" by the New York Times. His previous books include Last Night at the Brain Thieves' Ball, Endless Love, and Waking the Dead. SPENCER has been writing for most of his life, but says that "there is really nothing interesting about my life of a biographical nature -- born, raised, educated, etc., etc.

2: Writer MARTIN AMIS, author of The Information (Harmony Books). The book is about rivalry in the literary world, which some have said parallels AMIS' own life. Britain's literary world was shocked when AMIS demanded a half-million pound advance on The Information, supposedly to pay for his divorce and costly dental work, and then dumped his long-time agent, who was also the wife of his best friend. The New York Times has called The Information "an uncompromising and highly ambitious novel that should also be a big popular hit." REV 1: Book critic MAUREEN CORRIGAN reviews Scott Spencer's new book, Men In Black (